In this conversation, preceding the May 3 performance of Manuela Infante's Estado Vegetal, Annie Dorsen and Manuela Infante, two renowned theater makers from the U.S. and Chile respectively, meet for the first time to discuss their distinct performances that radically unseat human presence, behavior, and ideology. Joshua Williams (Assistant Professor Faculty Fellow in the Drama Department at NYU Tisch ) joins the discussion to frame the discipline of theater as an art form that is changing in the "posthuman" era. Moderated by Infante's translator and BAC Story author Alexandra Ripp.